From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug tracker woes/misunderstanding Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:40:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83r582fnr2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <042C2BC3673A4EA187047FE106A0ED89@us.oracle.com> <87pqnmcyld.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83tycyfqo1.fsf@gnu.org> <206D2AC044E640119F6AAED2EE618F09@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305312160 20303 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2011 18:42:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 18:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 20:42:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKxJn-0007hz-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 20:42:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39308 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKxJm-0001gr-Jw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53235) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKxJj-0001g6-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKxJf-0003jR-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:50773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKxJe-0003iX-U8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 14:42:23 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LL500M00D586I00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 21:41:56 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.10.122]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LL500L3PD9UMBC0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 13 May 2011 21:41:56 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <206D2AC044E640119F6AAED2EE618F09@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139378 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , > Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 11:02:27 -0700 > > > > Great. Please add your explanation as doc, wherever the > > > bug tracker is documented (assuming this info is not already there). > > > > It is already there (admin/notes/bugtracker): > > > > ** How do I reply to an existing bug report? > > Reply to 123@debbugs.gnu.org... > > Nope, but thanks for playing, Eli. Why am I not surprised? > That does not include the info from Stephen's explanation. Yes, it does, if you read it carefully. > 1. Users _will_ hit `Reply' and `Reply All'. And they will reply to direct > replies to them from other users, i.e., mail that comes from other users and not > from the bug tracker. And that is okay. It works. > It is not enough to tell users that they must always edit the recipient > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, replacing it with @debbugs.gnu.org. That is > obviously not going to happen - including for users such as Eli Zaretskii. > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8653#26 Users such as Eli Zaretskii know how to be careful about this. So they are allowed some leeway. Users such as Drew Adams, who don't always know what they are doing (or pretend they don't), should follow the instructions to the letter. > 2. Please add information about what kinds of editing of the Subject line are > no-no's (at least in the case where the recipient is bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org). No edits are allowed, period.