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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] system-type cygwin with window-system w32
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:29:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r55n7dsv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E240C17.4020102@gmail.com>

> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 03:33:59 -0700
> From: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>
> CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> >> -  if (!hprevinst)
> >> -    {
> >> -      w32_init_class (hinst);
> >> -    }
> >> +  w32_init_class (hinst);
> > 
> > Not sure why the test was deleted here.  Can you explain?
> 
> hprevinst isn't trivially available under Cygwin, and I don't see what
> the test is buying us: class registration is inexpensive.

But then for Cygwin the condition will always be false, and the net
effect is to always call the function, as you wanted, right?  So I
would rather we left the code alone.

> >> +  htext = GlobalAlloc (GMEM_MOVEABLE | GMEM_DDESHARE, bytes);
> >> +  if (!htext)
> >> +    error ("GlobalAlloc: %s", w32_strerror (GetLastError ()));
> > 
> > Such cryptic error messages are not useful, because users are not
> > required to know what GlobalAlloc is.  Please modify the text to be
> > more palatable to mere mortals (here and elsewhere in this part of the
> > patch).
> 
> Well, it's better than what we used to do much of the time, which was to
> not check error codes at all.  How would you suggest changing the
> messages?

How about calling memory_full?

Or maybe error ("Not enough memory <TO DO WHATEVER THIS CODE DOES>") ?

> We could just the UI thread for this purpose instead of a dedicated one,

This is what I had in mind as the alternative, yes.

> What if I want to create a GUI-less Emacs that can nevertheless
> can interact with the system clipboard?

GUI-less Emacs normally doesn't interact with the clipboard, so
there's no need to choose a design that complicates things just
because we would like to make this feature available on a single
platform.

Anyway, I'm hardly an expert on this particular issue (i.e. Windows
GUI and the message pump).  I'm just worried by the fact that we will
have 2 threads calling GetMessage; in my experience this could lead to
hard-to-debug problems.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-18 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-18  0:01 [PATCH] system-type cygwin with window-system w32 Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18  0:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18  6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18  6:29   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18  8:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 10:10       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 16:04         ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-18 16:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 13:55     ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-18 16:13     ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-18 17:34       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-07-18  6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18  7:01   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18  9:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18  9:41       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 10:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 10:49           ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 11:22             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-07-18 16:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 16:48               ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 17:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 22:08             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-18 22:24               ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 22:45                 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-18 22:56                   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-19 16:49                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-21  1:44               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-18 22:08             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-18 13:31       ` Jason Rumney
2011-07-18 13:46         ` Richard Riley
2011-07-18  8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-18 10:33   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 16:29     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-07-18 17:04       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 15:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-18 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-18 17:37 ` Andreas Schwab
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-18 17:33 grischka
2011-07-18 17:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 18:08   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 18:52     ` grischka
2011-07-18 19:11       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-18 21:01         ` grischka
2011-07-19  2:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-19  2:59             ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-21 17:44           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-22  7:30             ` Daniel Colascione
2011-07-22  7:41               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-22 21:24                 ` chad
2011-07-22 21:57                   ` Lennart Borgman
2011-07-18 18:38   ` grischka

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