From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: call for more ert tests Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:38:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83r4fqi7cc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v1zjrnl.fsf@gnu.org> <8361x3jqsy.fsf@gnu.org> <8338s7jp53.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo6vb8uo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d2ra2a5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372171118 1568 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2013 14:38:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 25 16:38:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUO3-0003ov-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:38:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUO3-0008UO-CQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUNz-0008U3-NJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:38:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUNy-0002WE-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:41873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrUNy-0002W5-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:38:22 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MOY00K00DUU3900@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:38:19 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MOY00KZ7DZV1220@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:38:19 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87d2ra2a5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161026 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:31:50 +0900 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Well, requiring tests for new features or fixed bugs, and confirmation > >> that there are no regressions from the existing tests. > > > > I believe it's good, obviously. The problem is with introducing it > > without losing too many contributors. > > It's not obviously good. It helped kill Bazaar development, for one > thing. There are opposite examples, like GDB and GCC. I don't think they are anywhere near dying. So clearly other factors are at work here, and they at least sometimes are stronger than this one, in determining whether a project will continue its development and get enough contributions.