From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs completion matches selection UI Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:19:06 +0200 Message-ID: <83r4a8cvmd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fvqtg02v.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <877gc5fm30.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3g47m7b.fsf@yandex.ru> <528B6F11.7070607@yandex.ru> <83mwl0fjgy.fsf@gnu.org> <528DDDAD.6080304@yandex.ru> <83fvqpemzv.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9gxf12z.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385133554 3504 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2013 15:19:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 16:19:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsVr-0008GU-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 16:19:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsVq-000107-IJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:19:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46209) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsVh-0000su-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:19:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsVb-00083P-PH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:19:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:47303) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjsVb-000838-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MWO004007NIQ400@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:19:01 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MWO004AO7VPQE00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:19:01 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87a9gxf12z.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165565 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:38:12 +0900 > > > A popup frame also obscures the window you are working in, which is > > also a nuisance. > > Yeah, we've never fixed that. Of course the developer can position > the popup by hand, but that sucks, too. But for something the size of > a toolip (typically with relatively small font size, too) and no frame > decorations, it doesn't bug me anywhere as much, YMMV. Current tooltips are very small: 3-4 short lines at most. If they are used for completion, they will need to become much larger, and will probably need scroll bars. This begins to sound like a real frame. > If you've got transparency working, maybe that would be worth trying > (transparent background, alpha=.5 foreground?) I find that I'm annoyed by transparency: it makes it hard for me to catch the stuff at a glance. But maybe it's just a thing that comes with age.