From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes that should go into version 24.4 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:59 +0200 Message-ID: <83r45u4o6s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <532CEDEF.90707@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395477890 19727 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2014 08:44:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 08:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 22 09:44:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHY2-00035n-Hy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:44:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHY2-0008CL-7M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHXt-0008C0-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:44:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHXn-0005Bh-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WRHXm-0005BH-O6; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 04:44:42 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N2T00B00XCS3G00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N2T00ANQXMGXW40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:44:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <532CEDEF.90707@dancol.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170773 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:57:03 -0700 > From: Daniel Colascione > > the subr.el one should be in neither branch. It papers over a > release-blocking bug. We shouldn't release 24.4 until we've figured > out why the hell the GC randomly crashes. You can't even be sure > that your lisp hack even fixes the problem. Since (evidently) no one is actively works on fixing that bug, I see no reasons to punish people who run the trunk codebase by imposing on them random crashes they cannot recover from. As long as the bug remains open, we didn't forget about it, and will fix it eventually; in the meantime, let users have one less reason for crashes.