From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16617: 24.3.50; REGRESSION: `C-q ?' pops up annoying *Char Help* buffer Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:43:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83r4597tb9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <891cf052-6085-4ad4-b03b-83379a85ff0f@default> <83txaa9ya8.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396838665 3727 80.91.229.3 (7 Apr 2014 02:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 02:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16617@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 07 04:44:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXj-000114-FB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:44:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59981 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXi-0004hg-GT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:44:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47119) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXb-0004hQ-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:44:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXW-0005do-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXW-0005dh-Cl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:44:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXV-00069q-Qp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:44:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 02:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16617-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16617.139683863623648 (code B ref 16617); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 02:44:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Apr 2014 02:43:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXP-00069K-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:47920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWzXL-000697-EA for 16617@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3N00C00398IR00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 16617@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:42:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3N00BK63IEUP10@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:42:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87839 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Drew Adams , 16617@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:33:11 -0400 > > > This is indeed a regression, but the only real bug I see here is that > > the "*Char Help*" buffer pops _down_ so quickly one can hardly notice > > it, let alone read the text it wants to display. > > No, it's very important for C-q ? to insert a ?. > This is needed in those contexts where... ? brings up a *help* buffer ;-) Leo suggested a patch for that.