From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19175: 24.4; make-frame-on-display fails if emacs started with -nw Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:38:55 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3s4shc0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wq6jrjis.fsf@ak2.becroft.co.nz> <0E7A721E-2256-4932-9832-ED19A86FE000@swipnet.se> <87bnjc5v0r.fsf@ak2.becroft.co.nz> <9800C187-E0D5-4431-865C-7CD57D019D6B@swipnet.se> <0ED7DA25-2D98-4C2E-A6A0-90635241EF40@swipnet.se> <83ego6zh4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83siclyjx0.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8yttgb2.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427856758 5947 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2015 02:52:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 02:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, 19175@debbugs.gnu.org, mb@becroft.co.nz To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 01 04:52:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8lW-0003Y2-0R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 04:52:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41358 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8lV-0000xv-Cf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:52:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46844) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8lO-0000xj-D5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:52:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8lK-0006lL-11 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8ZX-0002f9-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:40:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8ZW-0007Dv-IU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:40:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 02:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19175 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 19175-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19175.142785595527712 (code B ref 19175); Wed, 01 Apr 2015 02:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19175) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2015 02:39:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41556 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8Yl-0007Cu-7X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:39:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:46254) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yd8Yi-0007Cf-CF for 19175@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NM300100WCVQV00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 19175@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:40:12 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NM3002E0WR0XW00@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:40:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101100 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, nicolas@petton.fr, 19175@debbugs.gnu.org, mb@becroft.co.nz > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:07:37 -0400 > > > IME, the fact that a bug never happened (or, more accurately, was > > never reported) before says nothing at all about its probability or > > the chance to see it again tomorrow. These are Poisson processes, and > > they are known to be nasty in this regard. > > It's no guarantee, but there is actually a very strong correlation > between the past and the future. No, there isn't, not IME. > > Also, should it prove to be a problem, immediately releasing 24.6 with > > that change reverted is a very simple matter. > > This argument cuts both ways. But with my suggestion, the average gain is higher.