From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20545: New minor mode Electric Punct Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:38:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3qkjuve.fsf@gnu.org> References: <554FEFFE.7000303@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2wfma51.fsf@gnu.org> <555301BD.1040503@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431535163 3141 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2015 16:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20545@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 13 18:39:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZgf-00073R-22 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 18:39:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZge-0001SB-DO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZga-0001Qv-CZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZgV-0006Z0-7r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZgV-0006Yt-59 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZgU-0005WA-O7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20545 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20545-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20545.143153511221113 (code B ref 20545); Wed, 13 May 2015 16:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2015 16:38:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43982 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZfz-0005UR-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:38:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:61756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsZfx-0005Tt-6b for 20545@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 12:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NOA00B00RCC6X00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 20545@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 19:38:18 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NOA00BU4RJU3P50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 13 May 2015 19:38:18 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <555301BD.1040503@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:102748 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 00:48:13 -0700 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: 20545@debbugs.gnu.org > > Do we already have a way of displaying ‘..’ on terminals that cannot > display them (notably, some TTYs)? If not, we should add that before > we install these changes, and those in bug #20385. I don't think we > can let doc strings have glyphless characters. > > I just now configured a terminal to refuse to display curved quotes, and when I used it Emacs displayed "‘like this’" as "\u2018like this\u2019" with underscores below the "\u2018" and the "\u2019". Yes, that's what I see, too. > I could easily change it to display it as "`like this'" with underscores under the "`" and the "'", if you think that'd be a win. I think we should indeed display that `like this' (when the curved quotes cannot be displayed), but do we really need the underscores? What would be their purpose? Thanks.