From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 21:15:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38061f42-eaf1-47c6-b74d-f676ac952b18@default>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > We are asking for matches that disregard the diacriticals
> > (and in case of ª also higher-order collation-order variation).
>
> No. You are asking for that only when you use a search pattern
> that does not use the diacriticals. When you search with á in
> the pattern you are NOT asking for matches that disregard the
> diacriticals. And why not?
Because á does include a diacritical. By specifying it, the user told
us the diacriticals are important, and shouldn't be disregarded.
> > It's what the Unicode Standard recommends, and IMO it makes a
> > lot of sense. See http://unicode.org/reports/tr10/#Searching.
>
> I don't see that, when reading that section. I do see that it
> explicitly calls out that behavior as an _option_:
>
> 8.2 Asymmetric Search
> Users often find asymmetric searching to be a useful option.
"Users often find asymmetric searching to be a useful option" sounds
like a recommendation to me.
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2015-09-01 15:46 char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Drew Adams
2015-09-01 15:52 ` Davis Herring
2015-09-01 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 17:51 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 18:40 ` Davis Herring
2015-09-01 19:09 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 22:45 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-02 0:33 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 20:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-01 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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[not found] ` <<83r3miatvl.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<21998.29683.916211.867479@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
[not found] ` <<9A972800-D8F0-4DA8-877E-07D5BDC2E1F9@gmail.com>
2015-09-01 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-01 18:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 20:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 5:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-08 6:04 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-08 13:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-08 14:24 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 15:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-08 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 17:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-09 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 3:12 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 21:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 20:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 20:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:25 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:07 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-09 15:21 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 2:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-10 3:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 13:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-11 16:33 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 20:59 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-11 23:11 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-12 15:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-12 15:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2015-09-08 21:46 ` Drew Adams
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2015-09-12 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 13:39 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 21:19 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-09 15:07 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-08 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 21:20 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-09 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-09 11:23 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-09 13:32 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:12 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 20:50 ` Juri Linkov
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2015-09-09 15:22 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 2:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-10 3:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 6:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-10 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 15:50 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 20:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:00 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:06 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-02 15:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 15:56 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 21:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-02 22:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-03 15:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 3:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-03 7:28 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-03 17:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 13:52 ` Nix
2015-09-07 17:07 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 23:23 ` Nix
2015-09-08 2:17 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 15:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-03 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-03 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 16:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 16:10 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-03 19:49 ` Pip Cet
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