From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:13:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3jwjnvm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vb98csu1.fsf@red-bean.com> <87h9kscqig.fsf@red-bean.com> <83vb98jqwp.fsf@gnu.org> <5643951A.8040602@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447272879 2624 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 20:14:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 21:14:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwbmh-0003UT-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:14:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42744 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwbmh-0000Se-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:14:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50188) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwbm8-0000QV-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:14:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwbll-0005KU-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:13:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:45467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwbll-0005Iz-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:13:25 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NXO001002N1QQ00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:13:23 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NXO001412UBNY50@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 22:13:23 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <5643951A.8040602@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194131 Archived-At: > Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:20:58 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > People who don't like electric-indent-mode can just turn it off, can't > > they? Why argue about defaults when they can be so easily changed? > > I think we're discussing the default behavior when electric-indent-mode is on, > which it often is by default. Yes, and I'm saying turn it off if you don't like it. We had endless discussions of these and other similar effects, back when electric-indent-mode was made the default. I'd rather not go through all those discussions again. Just turn it off in your .emacs and live happily ever after.