From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reftex.el autoloads Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:09:44 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3ir5vrb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h9jqo9a5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83wpsm9skk.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4d22c7f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831tata1mg.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1udxaky.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83mvth6jsa.fsf@gnu.org> <87poycvrp7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <566B2BFC.1070802@cs.ucla.edu> <877fkj1q5j.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83si375x03.fsf@gnu.org> <8737v71oo0.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449947408 25775 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2015 19:10:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 12 20:10:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pYN-00077f-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:10:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52765 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pYN-0006tc-2W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:09:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pY6-0006rW-D5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:09:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pY3-00020g-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:09:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pY3-00020a-40; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:09:39 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1711 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a7pY1-00035V-Fp; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 14:09:38 -0500 In-reply-to: <8737v71oo0.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196174 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: , , > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:56:31 +0000 > > I think that I have found all the other incidences now. These are > > dired.el > htmlfontity > ibuffer.el > rmail.el > ps-print.el > > Of these, ps-print.el was Stefan's commit in 2007. All the others were > Glenn, over a spread of years (unto 2014 for reftex). > > I'm guessing the motivation for all of these was the same -- faster > loading of loaddefs.el, and lazy loading of other parts of subsidiary > files. If this is the motivation I wonder whether it holds as true in > 2015 as it did in 2007. No, the motivation was to replace the hand-written autoloads that were there before. See this message, where Stefan posted a short explanation: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg00263.html (Originally, these autoloads recorded the time of the update, which was a hassle discussed in that thread; that was replaced with a checksum to avoid changing the file too often when the autoloads didn't really change.)