From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questions about isearch Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:58:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3fwaktc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83lh9lx6oi.fsf@gnu.org> <83a8q1x1cn.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9k74pkw.fsf@gmail.com> <83bnafse4f.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456675145 24808 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2016 15:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per.starback@gmail.com, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mathias Dahl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 28 16:59:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3kK-0006Al-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 16:59:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59514 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3kJ-0008Vl-VO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:58:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44223) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3k6-0008Vf-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:58:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3k5-0003U1-Om for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:58:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3k1-0003TP-UR; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:58:41 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3245 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3jy-00062o-BC; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:58:38 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Mathias Dahl on Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:27:10 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200762 Archived-At: > From: Mathias Dahl > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:27:10 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Artur Malabarba > > I agree with Per that this new feature is problematic. I have used Emacs > for soon 20 years and up until now, if I search for an "a" I find only > "a". From my view, suddenly finding "ä" or "å" as well would, in my > view, be to find "false hits". What about finding "ä" (a 2-character sequence) when looking for "ä", or finding "å" (1 character) when looking for "å" (2 characters) -- would you consider these false hits as well? > Surely one could argue that case folding has the same problem but I > think those are less and it has been the default for as long as I > have used Emacs and I think it is common in most programs to have > this behavior by default. This new feature however I cannot remember > seeing anywhere so it cannot be that important to have it turned on > by default. Emacs has many features on by default that are not anywhere else, or weren't when Emacs introduced them. So I don't think this argument should guide our decisions.