From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23144: shrinking windows with gtk 3.20 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 10:01:33 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3eosdde.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56FF0C5B.1020201@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459580604 19877 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2016 07:03:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 07:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23144@debbugs.gnu.org, matthias.clasen@gmail.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 02 09:03:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaS-0006Up-B9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 09:03:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48299 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaR-0002IR-F3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaN-0002IB-A1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaI-0003ho-HB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaI-0003hk-DK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amFaI-0002ra-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23144-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23144.145958053810955 (code B ref 23144); Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2016 07:02:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amFZZ-0002qd-Ug for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:02:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amFZY-0002qQ-3V for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFZS-0003bJ-74 for 23144@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amFZM-0003ZG-Vw; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4134 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1amFZM-0007OF-9H; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 03:02:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <56FF0C5B.1020201@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:03:39 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115859 Archived-At: > Cc: 23144@debbugs.gnu.org, Matthias Clasen > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:03:39 -0700 > > > . On the release branch, provide some safe workaround, triggered by > > an option users could set if they encounter this problem with a > > future GTK version. This assumes such a safe workaround is > > possible, of course; I thought along the lines of the user > > specifying the initial size explicitly in some way. > > > > Another possibility is to ask builders not to combine GTK+4 (or will > this be GTK+ 3.22? it's not clear), whenever it comes out, with Emacs 25 > whenever it comes out; and to instead stick with GTK+ 3.20 or earlier > when building Emacs 25. If that's a reasonable request then the problem > goes away. Such a request, if we agree to that, should be in the form of configure rejecting GTK+4. I don't believe in our ability to reach all of the package maintainers and convince them. But if we can find a reasonable fire escape without rejecting new versions of GTK, I think it would be a better alternative.