From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18836: 25.0.50; `insert-directory' barfs on nonexistent file, but not for `ls-lisp-insert-directory' Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:20:28 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3dnnk4z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8760uzp2lo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t5np0kw.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb2zm75p.fsf@gnus.org> <83vb2znldj.fsf@gnu.org> <874majm6a5.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462033303 29830 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2016 16:21:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18836@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 30 18:21:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awXe6-0006XT-Mp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:21:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58927 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXe2-0001ib-F0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXds-0001Ta-JT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdh-00050s-2R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:21:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdg-0004zn-V6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:21:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdd-0003UB-Jd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:21:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18836 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18836-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18836.146203325913384 (code B ref 18836); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:21:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18836) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 16:20:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdX-0003Tj-MU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:20:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdS-0003TU-Ii for 18836@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:20:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdE-0004r6-23 for 18836@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:20:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60366) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awXdD-0004qE-SS; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:20:35 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1870 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awXd7-0000CV-QU; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:20:30 -0400 In-reply-to: <874majm6a5.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:05:06 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117370 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 18836@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:05:06 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > >> Cc: 18836@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:46:10 +0200 > >> > >> >> I have no opinion on that, but: What on Earth is that function (and all > >> >> its adjacent functions) doing in files.el? > >> > > >> > Where else would you like them to be? > >> > >> In dired.el. > > > > Dired isn't preloaded. > > But does anything other than dired use it? I see that other packages > (like ange-ftp) instrument it... it that the reason it's in files.el? Yes. Also, ls-lisp.