From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 23426@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 19:00:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r3dhizis.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9460b25-933e-41ba-aaf1-e46a9e22ad10@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 4 May 2016 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT))
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 23426@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > It didn't replace the old command, that one is still there, it just
> > doesn't have a key binding by default.
>
> It's the new feature that should perhaps not have a key. At
> least it should not grab an existing key. There are plenty of
> unbound keys in Dired. And why not just provide the command,
> for now, and let users bind it themselves if they like?
It is easier to get users complain about what they dislike than report
what they like.
> > > This new feature should have been added as, uh, err, well, just
> > > a new feature - a new command, totally unrelated to existing `A'
> > > etc. Bad idea to usurp `A' for a command that requires a user
> > > to have `grep' and `find'. Bad Emacs.
> >
> > We want to stop maintaining the etags-derived UI for moving
> > through hits, so this is part of a plan.
>
> So what? Introduce the new as optional behavior. Let users
> decide. What's the hurry to replace?
See above.
> What's the hurry to replace?
Maintaining too many alternative UIs is a maintenance burden we cannot
afford.
> > OTOH, when Drew will stop assuming "Emacs devs" have ill will, and
> > release knee-jerk reactions, such as this one, based on that, is
> > anyone's guess.
>
> When will Eli stop personalizing everything?
I don't. It's all personal to begin with.
> I don't claim ill will - never have.
May I suggest that you ask someone impartial to read all your posts,
and provide feedback? You might be surprised to learn how your
messages read.
> What's the imperative behind this key-binding replacement?
> Why not just offer the new feature as a plus, not a
> plus-and-minus?
See above.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-04 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-02 17:17 bug#23426: 25.0.93; dired-do-find-regexp doesn't find newline Heinz Rommerskirchen
2016-05-02 17:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 18:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 1:18 ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 23:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 17:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-03 19:00 ` Glenn Morris
2016-05-03 20:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 2:05 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 2:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 4:24 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<838tzpkgtj.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:04 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
[not found] ` <<83r3dhizis.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:32 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 5:00 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 10:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 13:32 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 13:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
[not found] ` <<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 15:39 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 15:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:10 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:20 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 18:06 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 16:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] <<<CAFyQvY0KYfeg9-f8DiCJcEy5-W=yRFykLLpCHRtCeqzz9Bdi0g@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <<3ba077a2-21e0-9799-4f8b-c07bd1623853@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <<<6a4860bb-2b39-4da4-b2a7-7b8d15211fee@default>
[not found] ` <<<831t5hkg6x.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<7da95e19-50ff-4ca5-a5b8-2a7f65c2a7cd@default>
[not found] ` <<6cf9e2bf-fa90-3783-b30a-9021074790b0@yandex.ru>
[not found] ` <<93badbbc-31f6-409d-8dff-d67e9202deca@default>
[not found] ` <<83lh3piyvq.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:23 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <<83oa8liz53.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-05-04 16:39 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 18:20 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 20:09 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-04 21:13 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 23:44 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-05 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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