From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Getting start on Emacs 25.2 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:15:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83r38cdky8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mvj5i8ab.fsf@gnu.org> <83y42nhmmo.fsf@gnu.org> <87zin0149t.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474561565 2407 195.159.176.226 (22 Sep 2016 16:26:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 22 18:26:01 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bn6ok-0006tj-8P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:25:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52509 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bn6oi-0000gx-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bn5j4-0008CN-6e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bn5j0-0006wz-2G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:15:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bn5iz-0006wb-Vx; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1474 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bn5ir-0003xV-5h; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:15:37 -0400 In-reply-to: <87zin0149t.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207702 Archived-At: > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: John Wiegley , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:57:02 +0100 > > >> I think 25.2 should be a bugfix only release, happening very soon. > > > > Then we'd need a good definition of what changes constitute a > > "bugfix". > > I don't think anyone has managed that for any form of software. A > working rule of thumb is the best we are likely to get, but that should > be enough. There's no differences between the two, for our purposes in this case. Rule of thumb is the same as definition in this context, and both need to be good. Otherwise, we will either release 25.2 that won't be an improvement wrt 25.1, or will waste a lot of time and energy arguing just what changes to commit to the release branch.