From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21072: Brave new mark-defun (and a testing tool) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 17:38:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83r30pdbly.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o9ydrzkr.fsf@mbork.pl> <87bmu6icea.fsf@mbork.pl> <87wpctgieu.fsf@mbork.pl> <52e67f43-edcf-09e3-5fd6-6079763fd234@yandex.ru> <87tw7wh9sf.fsf@mbork.pl> <87k28sdka6.fsf@jane> <87efyze00g.fsf@jane> <87bmu2eoji.fsf@jane> <87wpcpw61w.fsf@jane> <83o9xdghmc.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9wkoald.fsf@jane> <87a881ofsu.fsf@jane> <87k272wh8x.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <871st4aal7.fsf@jane> <87tw5l7v26.fsf@jane> <99032fe6-1589-4972-8a43-6748007445af@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492526361 372 195.159.176.226 (18 Apr 2017 14:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, mbork@mbork.pl, 21072@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 18 16:39:16 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHi-0008PV-TV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:39:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42277 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHo-0007g6-FR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHc-0007dY-7d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHW-0001VP-Lw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHW-0001VB-I8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UHW-0008Tm-Cy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21072 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21072-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21072.149252630932555 (code B ref 21072); Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21072) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Apr 2017 14:38:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54862 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UGz-0008T0-JV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:38:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UGy-0008Sp-By for 21072@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UGs-00018P-8E for 21072@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33433) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UGl-00015h-8v; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2621 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1d0UGk-0007DN-Ew; Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:38:14 -0400 In-reply-to: <99032fe6-1589-4972-8a43-6748007445af@default> (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:131730 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 21072@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier > > > > Hmm, no, I wasn't really aware of folding (you mean via > > > `outline-hide-sublevels', right?). > > > > Actually, via Org-mode. Is there anyone who does that > > without Org-mode? Out of curiosity: why??? > > Yes, I do. ;-) And so do I. > And so do you, if you use `C-h n' (`view-emacs-news') and > you sometimes hide sublevels there. Right.