From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-26 275e735: More changes in the Emacs manuals Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:28:59 +0200 Message-ID: <83r2pg96l0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180219161442.31005.31151@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180219161444.4763E20A22@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87r2pgudn0.fsf@gmail.com> <83sh9w9a97.fsf@gnu.org> <87mv04ub35.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1519064855 22309 195.159.176.226 (19 Feb 2018 18:27:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 19 19:27:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1enq9a-00043r-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:27:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51768 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enqBc-0005tD-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:29:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46205) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enqBM-0005qX-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:28:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enqBI-000665-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:28:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1enqBI-00065t-82; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2713 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1enqBH-0004ho-MH; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:28:52 -0500 In-reply-to: <87mv04ub35.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:46:06 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222910 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:46:06 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Robert Pluim > >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii > >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:50:59 +0100 > >> > >> > You can use a numeric argument before a self-inserting character to > >> > insert multiple copies of it. This is straightforward when the > >> > -character is not a digit; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 a} inserts 64 > >> > +character is not a digit; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 a}} inserts 64 > >> > copies of the character @samp{a}. But this does not work for > >> > -inserting digits; @kbd{C-u 6 4 1} specifies an argument of 641. You > >> > -can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another > >> > -@kbd{C-u}; for example, @kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1} does insert 64 copies of > >> > -the character @samp{1}. > >> > +inserting digits; @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 1}} specifies an argument of 641. > >> > +You can separate the argument from the digit to insert with another > >> > +@kbd{C-u}; for example, @w{@kbd{C-u 6 4 C-u 1}} does insert 64 copies > >> > +of the character @samp{1}. > >> > > >> > >> 'does insert' => 'inserts'. There's no contrasting with a previous > >> 'does not' phrase going on. > > > > Yes, there is such a contrast: note the "does not work" part. > > > > If it said 'does not insert' I'd agree with you. It does say that, albeit not literally: You can use [...] to insert [...]. But this does not work for inserting [...]. You can [...] insert with another 'C-u'; for example, 'C-u 6 4 C-u 1' does insert [...]. Sounds pretty clear to me what is being contrasted with what.