From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83r2hwjydg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86va7afpda.fsf@zoho.com> <83musmktmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2hxstkw.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <837ejplc7p.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhwlzct5.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536912368 2304 195.159.176.226 (14 Sep 2018 08:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:06:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 10:06:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j73-0000P4-Et for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 10:06:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50293 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j99-0002FI-L3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 04:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46009) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j8i-0002FD-R8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 04:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j8e-00039w-H7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 04:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j8Y-000356-Pe for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 04:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1308 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0j8Y-0001f3-DN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 04:07:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> (loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117901 Archived-At: > From: "Loris Bennett" > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:34:10 +0200 > > > The oldest email in my INBOX is from 18 years ago, and I still need it > > from time to time. I guess time-based expiration is not for me. > > The default is for articles not to expire - you have to mark an email > explicitly as expirable for it to get deleted at some point. If that is true (Robert seems to say it isn't by default), then Gnus is not different from Rmail, where I explicitly delete messages I don't want to keep (and filing them to an archive folder by default marks it as deleted), and then expunge my INBOX once a week to physically remove those marked for deletion. > Does an email from my wife about school need to be filed in "family" > or "school"? At worst, you will have to search both folders, which is still better than searching all of them. And when that happens, it's an opportunity to rethink the way you organized your folders. > For this reason I find myself thinking that just one or two folders > with a good search mechanism would be a more flexible solution. When you have a good idea what is you are searching form, i.e. remember some unique phrase or some other attribute, then folders are entirely irrelevant, because you can search all of your archives in milliseconds. Folders are only of help when you don't have a good idea what to search for, and only a very vague recollection of the issue you want to find. > PS: Eli, shouldn't that 18-year-old mail in your INBOX have been filed > away into one of your two dozen folders by now 😉? Or is it maybe one of > those tricky corner-cases 😅? Filing mail away means it's out of sight. There are things I don't want to be out of my sight, ever.