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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:07:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r2hwjydg.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> (loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de)

> From: "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:34:10 +0200
> 
> > The oldest email in my INBOX is from 18 years ago, and I still need it
> > from time to time.  I guess time-based expiration is not for me.
> 
> The default is for articles not to expire - you have to mark an email
> explicitly as expirable for it to get deleted at some point.

If that is true (Robert seems to say it isn't by default), then Gnus
is not different from Rmail, where I explicitly delete messages I
don't want to keep (and filing them to an archive folder by default
marks it as deleted), and then expunge my INBOX once a week to
physically remove those marked for deletion.

> Does an email from my wife about school need to be filed in "family"
> or "school"?

At worst, you will have to search both folders, which is still better
than searching all of them.  And when that happens, it's an
opportunity to rethink the way you organized your folders.

> For this reason I find myself thinking that just one or two folders
> with a good search mechanism would be a more flexible solution.

When you have a good idea what is you are searching form,
i.e. remember some unique phrase or some other attribute, then folders
are entirely irrelevant, because you can search all of your archives
in milliseconds.  Folders are only of help when you don't have a good
idea what to search for, and only a very vague recollection of the
issue you want to find.

> PS: Eli, shouldn't that 18-year-old mail in your INBOX have been filed
> away into one of your two dozen folders by now 😉? Or is it maybe one of
> those tricky corner-cases 😅?

Filing mail away means it's out of sight.  There are things I don't
want to be out of my sight, ever.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-14  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.615.1536613815.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-12 20:10 ` Using R-mail in Emacs Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13  2:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13  8:13     ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-13 14:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13 14:34         ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-13 14:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.731.1536850436.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14  7:34             ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14  7:50               ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-14 12:27                 ` Gnus and local mirroring (was: Using R-mail in Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 18:03                   ` Gnus and local mirroring Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-14 21:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 23:15                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-15  2:12                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-15 15:54                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-14  8:07               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-09-14  9:09                 ` Using R-mail in Emacs Robert Pluim
2018-09-14 12:11               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.769.1536912467.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14  9:31                 ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14 10:40                   ` Devin Prater
2018-09-14 17:05                     ` Filipp Gunbin
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.773.1536921642.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 11:20                     ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14 14:58                   ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-14 12:16                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 12:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.778.1536928843.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 12:54                     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 14:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-14 15:02                         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-14 15:25                           ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.781.1536933989.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 14:38                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 18:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.793.1536950118.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 20:07                             ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15  6:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.806.1536994011.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-15 14:12                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15 16:43                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15 21:42                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21  0:14                                       ` Bob Proulx
2018-09-21  0:40                                         ` Bob Newell
2018-09-25 23:26                                           ` Bob Proulx
2018-09-27  1:02                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.1055.1537490409.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 16:06                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 17:58                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.1105.1537552703.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 18:05                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 19:27                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                 ` <mailman.1109.1537558053.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 21:44                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-22  6:32                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                     ` <mailman.1123.1537597944.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-22  7:51                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 20:46                                             ` Bob Newell
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.1110.1537562788.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 21:55                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.1051.1537488901.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 15:57                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 12:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 14:08                 ` Vegard Vesterheim
     [not found]         ` <mailman.730.1536849270.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 16:03           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13 16:05         ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]       ` <mailman.725.1536847871.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 15:52         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13  5:26   ` Joost Kremers
2018-09-13  6:33   ` YUE Daian
2018-09-13 13:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13 14:09     ` Martin Šlouf
     [not found]   ` <mailman.711.1536820440.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 13:35     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.757.1536886463.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 10:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 11:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14  0:54 Bob Newell
2018-09-14  7:39 ` Robert Pluim
     [not found] <mailman.719.1536839513.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 13:38 ` Emanuel Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-13 11:51 Jude DaShiell
2018-09-13 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 20:33 Ryan Lloyd
2018-09-11 19:30 ` Bob Newell

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