From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:59:20 +0300 Message-ID: <83r23bbvdj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bluhf7nz.fsf@gnu.org> <20191016111004.oialbyleokafpccz@Ergus> <87k194fvn7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871rvceeqp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv88cyic.fsf@gnu.org> <83pniwcvon.fsf@gnu.org> <87pniw30td.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k193dhdr.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="55381"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 37774@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrey Orst Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 17 11:00:28 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dy-000EFg-Mz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:00:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dx-000456-JZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 05:00:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dl-00040A-FQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 05:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1db-0004LH-FA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 05:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1da-0004It-JW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 05:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1da-0003pK-Fz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 05:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 37774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 37774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B37774.157130278414654 (code B ref 37774); Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 37774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2019 08:59:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47125 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dH-0003oG-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:59:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dG-0003o4-MS for 37774@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dB-00040a-Fw; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4463 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iL1dA-0007wG-Rj; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 04:59:37 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andrey Orst on Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:52:46 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169545 Archived-At: > From: Andrey Orst > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:52:46 +0300 > Cc: 37774@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Word processors. > > Emacs is so much more than a word processor. > > The thing is, that all your thoughts are seem correct if > we're speaking about text. Though,in Emacs there are many > packages that are used not for text editing, but for > interactions with different tools, and such change breaks > well established user interface. Examples were already > provided: Helm, Magit, Ediff I don't think I understand your point. All the packages you mentioned display text. > I do agree that this change is aimed to provide native way > of extending highlighting beyond EOL without relying on > hacks. And I think it's a good intention.I just disagree > with how it was forced in a way that it broke visuals of > many external packages that provide UI elements via > highlighting. I still don't see why "broke visuals" is what it did. I happen to think that the new appearance is not worse, and sometimes better than the old one. And this feature was discussed at length before implementing, so it isn't like it came out of the blue. How about if you try using this feature for a week or so, and see if you become accustomed to it nonetheless?