From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40573: 27.0.90; flymake-mode broken in scratch buffer Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:19:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1wmav3h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835ze4lsr1.fsf@gnu.org> <831roslq62.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgh89r78.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfn0j92e.fsf@gnu.org> <87imi39e8w.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h7xmipi7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sivdsjn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83r1wmd2u0.fsf@gnu.org> <83a73acted.fsf@gnu.org> <837dyecoyb.fsf@gnu.org> <835zdyclfa.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhbab07u.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9lyazdo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="27827"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 40573@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 19:21:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUg9-0007Az-1Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:21:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49978 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUg8-0006pR-4Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:21:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUep-0005sq-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeo-0003hq-CQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeo-0003hW-91 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeo-0007lc-4c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40573 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40573-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40573.158714397629818 (code B ref 40573); Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40573) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2020 17:19:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeN-0007ks-Kk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:19:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39911) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeL-0007kf-M9 for 40573@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeE-0002f2-Q1; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2517 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jPUeE-0002Rv-7M; Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:19:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= on Fri, 17 Apr 2020 16:55:07 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178533 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 16:55:07 +0100 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , Juri Linkov , 40573@debbugs.gnu.org, > Dmitry Gutov > > Can you explain what is dirty about having that mode for a subset > of files that _could_ make use of it and having the user select > it via M-x lisp-data-mode when he thinks it's useful? I already did, many times. I have nothing new to say about this. > Can you give > evidence of any benefit to your all-or-nothing stance here? I don't have to give any evidence. We both have our opinions, and they are different. Please respect mine. > I've explained, many times, that turning it on automatically for > non-generated files, is impossible to achieve. Do you disagree > with this statement? Yes, I do. Also mentioned more than once. Can we please stop this futile going in circles?