From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:07:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1rakbv2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1ca462fa-0f9e-3c18-6386-f43f49388b2f@gmail.com> <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> <83k0x4mjsv.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20567"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, drew.adams@oracle.com To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 21:13:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kG5XF-0005FX-4d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 21:13:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33388 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG5XE-0005sW-7Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:13:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG5RR-0005YS-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG5RQ-0002WJ-A9; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:07:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3100 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kG5RH-00014d-Ri; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:07:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (ams@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254925 Archived-At: > From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) > CC: eliz@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, dgutov@yandex.ru > Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 15:01:44 -0400 > > Now how you would go about explainin this mode to a new Emacs user is > beyond me We'd probably disable the visualizer by default.