From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: 43308@debbugs.gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com
Subject: bug#43308: 28.0.50; Improvements to Edit->Search menu
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:30:02 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r1r9iohh.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmn67d0fRyLqntnJCHUcxJfm4L7LCMAav6e_+Jt_NTEwSw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:19:05 -0700)
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 09:19:05 -0700
> Cc: yantar92@gmail.com, 43308@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> >> I think this is less of a concern these days.
> >
> > In what way is this less of a concern?
>
> Users are more familiar with incremental search, for example from
> Firefox. I checked, and Chromium also has it, and IIRC so does Safari.
> Assuming that our users have used any of those web browsers, they will
> already have had exposure to incremental search.
The example apps you show are not editors.
> In any case, even if they haven't, the feature will quickly be learned
> once you start using it.
The menus are supposed to help first-time users, with little or no
experience in using Emacs. Once they start using the incremental
search, the menus are probably not for them anymore.
> >> Right. The problem here is that these commands are specifically
> >> designed to be run from the menu. Is there any way to work around that?
> >
> > What kind of workaround do you have in mind?
>
> I'm not sure. Either we add specific workarounds for them in the menu
> code, or we make sure the original commands are adapted to suit this
> task. But it would be good to show the keybindings, since one of the
> main purposes of the menu is to make functionality discoverable.
The problem is that the key sequence invokes a different command.
About the only solution I see is to mention the keyboard equivalent in
the doc string of the command invoked by the menu.
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2020-09-10 14:18 bug#43308: 28.0.50; Improvements to Edit->Search menu Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-10 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 15:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-10 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 16:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-10 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-09-10 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 18:36 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 19:14 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 7:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-20 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-13 10:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-04-25 10:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 11:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-25 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-25 15:06 ` Drew Adams
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2020-09-20 16:26 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-21 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-21 19:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-09-21 19:39 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-21 19:30 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-21 21:15 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-22 8:04 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-22 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-22 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-22 16:59 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-22 19:30 ` bug#43569: 28.0.50; Menu "Continue Tags Search" signals an error Juri Linkov
2020-09-22 20:44 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-26 8:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-21 19:44 ` bug#43308: 28.0.50; Improvements to Edit->Search menu Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-26 14:53 ` bug#43569: 28.0.50; Menu "Continue Tags Search" signals an error Drew Adams
2020-09-26 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-26 15:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-26 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 16:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-26 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 18:58 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-26 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-26 21:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 10:22 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-09-27 12:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 13:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-27 13:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-26 16:31 ` Drew Adams
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