From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49050: 26.1; The INSANITY of setting a default font size in EMACS and saving it for future instances. Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:03:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1h123wd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wnqv2e7g.fsf@gnu.org> <83v96d26x5.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23746"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Jeff_B.atHome@clowderHouse.net, 49050@debbugs.gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 16 18:11:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY8L-0005xA-2x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:11:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45680 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY8K-0007Ke-1w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY1L-00012d-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY1L-0007pu-02 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY1K-0007WT-F8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49050 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49050-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49050.162385940228858 (code B ref 49050); Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2021 16:03:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY0f-0007VO-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY0d-0007V8-OV for 49050@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:03:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY0Y-0007KI-BH; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2828 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ltY0X-0001TC-TD; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:03:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:07:32 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208639 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Dimech > Cc: Jeff_B.atHome@clowderHouse.net, 49050@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:07:32 +0200 > > > Such changes in the defaults will need to be requested by much more > > than a single individual, for them to be considered seriously. > > You should start a public discussion about this so that you can make the appropriate > decision. Why me? I have enough on my plate already, and starting a discussion needs neither my consent nor my help. So feel free to start such a discussion. > I do not see that increasing the font size a bit and using modus-themes > subtracts from emacs. It only adds because modus-themes is currently the only > official emacs theme designed for accessible readability. But you didn't request these features to be turned on by some "Accessibility" knob, like other applications do. You requested them by default, or at least that was my understanding. The decision to add an "Accessibility" toggle, which is off by default, is a much easier one, and given that someone writes the code, should be a no-brainer to install. No discussion is needed for that.