From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15748: 24.3.50; `customize-group': Provide a way to hide/show all values Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 16:49:42 +0300 Message-ID: <83r150qivd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3a6553a3-0e1f-45ca-bfa2-8f39207f9308@default> <87fslhfkxp.fsf@gnus.org> <83lev9s4iv.fsf@gnu.org> <87fslgcmzv.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17755"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hmelman@gmail.com, 15748@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 11 15:50:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nomjF-0004OA-5v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 15:50:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39468 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nomjD-0008QQ-Q0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33998) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nomj4-0008Q3-Dk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42701) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nomj4-0008MW-4b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:50:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nomj3-0000rw-Uk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:50:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15748 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 15748-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15748.16522769883312 (code B ref 15748); Wed, 11 May 2022 13:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15748) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2022 13:49:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nomip-0000rL-PX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nomio-0000r8-Lp for 15748@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nomij-0008LW-9T; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:49:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RSXWDMflcbkrxHy+iQL0fYvLCiMxIvqRBwxeEmbTRP0=; b=qfkwoTXy/6hh w0NyXZFvCZjJwENxucQpKDyWsymBkL8R9TfDcxXp2+y3dL5bGOACYVnl75Sj3c8u2+RTNLrMjDxOa mE6l6IrvRHyveTT8GlSr3fmGsFX9f5Tj0Env4OflKdNnj59hUkVRtYtJNL/dDVHa0GnJ+tqgfYnCW JjWFBycZcAcRqs2Wds8cxsyo8blKC93VOLVYn4KBzNNJwMbhb5EPvnYXwEl4qDBxrsJIlneImnMuv uhIvUGuB4sbcMPKXgZWcC6KABrEARPi3U+hrNYPavenRgeigDO+qIe42wSCng/uLNVG/KRt52WjHY QXZ3MbOdhvka51uRvvBLCw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2712 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nomii-0006S3-QN; Wed, 11 May 2022 09:49:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fslgcmzv.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 11 May 2022 13:44:20 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:231927 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: hmelman@gmail.com, 15748@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:44:20 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Thanks, but can we have some documentation about its usage? For > > starters, in which buffers it is supposed to be used, and how? I > > thought this was for the buffer created by customize-group, but there > > it seems I can use 'H' only once: after that one time, which reveals > > all the variables, any subsequent 'H' press says "Invalid widget type" > > and does nothing. (I used the buffer created for the 'display' group, > > in case it matters.) > > Yes, it matters -- I was testing in a group with a different widget > selection, so I didn't see this bug. Now fixed on the trunk. It now works in "*Customize Group*" buffers I tried, but the problem is still there in some other similar cases. For example, try M-x customize-apropos RET window RET In the resulting buffer, the second 'H' still gets the same Invalid widget error. The same happens in a buffer created by customize-faces. Also, what about "M-x customize-browse"? The buffer looks differently, but don't we want 'H' to do the same there? > > I tried to understand whether I did something wrong by reading the doc > > string of the new command, but it didn't add anything to my > > understanding; it doesn't even say which "widgets" is it talking > > about. > > > > I think we need to improve the user documentation of this new feature. > > It just toggles the visibility, like that arrow thing. I don't know > what further can be said. I've now made the doc string more detailed.