all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
Cc: 55692@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#55692: 29.0.50; delete-selection-mode: Replace region only if set using the mouse
Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 20:10:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r14cjmdj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtf075ky.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Sun, 29 May 2022 20:23:49 +0530)

> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@gmail.com>
> Cc: 55692@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 20:23:49 +0530
> 
> >> Sure.  I will factor out the condition into a separate function.  Is
> >> that more elegant?
> >
> > No, that's overkill.  I meant that if you need an 'if' to return t or
> > something else, you could instead make it return nil or something
> > else, as in
> >
> >    (if SOMETHING foo)
> >
> > and reverse the condition.
> >
> > But if you still don't understand, just forget this comment.
> 
> I don't think I fully understood what you meant but I took a shot at it
> anyway.  Please review updated patch.

Well, that uses double negation, which IME is a sign that it can be
clarified.  Is the following condition correct?

  (when (and delete-selection-mode
             (use-region-p)
	     (not buffer-read-only)
	     (or (null delete-selection-temporary-region)
		 (and (eq delete-selection-temporary-region 'selection)
		      (consp transient-mark-mode)
		      (eq (car transient-mark-mode) 'only))
	         (and delete-selection-temporary-region
	              (or (eq transient-mark-mode 'lambda)
		          (and (consp transient-mark-mode)
		               (eq (car transient-mark-mode) 'only))))))

If not, why not?

> -first.  To toggle Delete Selection mode on or off, type @kbd{M-x
> -delete-selection-mode}.
> +first.  If you want to replace only temporary regions, set by
> +mouse-dragging or shift-selection (@pxref{Setting Mark}) or @kbd{C-u
> +C-x C-x}, then change the variable
> +@code{delete-selection-temporary-region} to @code{t}.  But if you do
> +not want to consider the region made active by @kbd{C-u C-x C-x}
> +(@pxref{Disabled Transient Mark}), then set the variable to
> +@code{selection}.  To toggle Delete Selection mode on or off, type
> +@kbd{M-x delete-selection-mode}.

This text is now too complex and thus confusing.  (You can only keep
using that style for boolean options.)  I would rephrase:

  Normally, inserting text deletes any active region, replacing it
  with the text you insert.  However, you can tune this behavior by
  customizing the @code{delete-selection-temporary-region} option.
  Its default value is @code{nil}, but you can set it to @code{t}, in
  which case only temporarily-active regions will be replaced: those
  which are set by dragging the mouse (@pxref{Setting Mark}) or by
  shift-selection (@pxref{Shift Selection}), as well as by @kbd{C-u
  C-x C-x} when Transient Mark mode is disabled.  You can further tune
  the behavior by setting @code{delete-selection-temporary-region} to
  @code{selection}: then temporary regions activated by @kbd{C-u C-x
  C-x} won't be replaced, only the ones activated by dragging the
  mouse or shift-selection.

OK?





  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-29 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-28 17:33 bug#55692: 29.0.50; delete-selection-mode: Replace region only if set using the mouse Visuwesh
2022-05-28 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-29  6:17   ` Visuwesh
2022-05-29  6:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-29  8:10       ` Visuwesh
2022-05-29  9:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-29 14:53           ` Visuwesh
2022-05-29 17:10             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-05-31 10:44               ` Visuwesh
2022-05-31 14:33                 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-01 16:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-01 17:03                   ` Visuwesh
2022-09-06 10:59                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=83r14cjmdj.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=55692@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=visuweshm@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.