From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57669: 29.0.50; C-n, C-p off under long lines Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 17:20:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83r10j9uqt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y1uujufi.fsf@dick> <87mtb8hezl.fsf@dick> <838rmsd4cc.fsf@gnu.org> <878rmsh9me.fsf@dick> <87zgf8fsv3.fsf@dick> <83zgf8bkmn.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8pwbjvy.fsf@gnu.org> <87a678fnnz.fsf@dick> <83r10kbex8.fsf@gnu.org> <875yhwflw7.fsf@dick> <83pmg4bcjt.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnace31g.fsf@dick> <87k06cdx8m.fsf@dick> <87fsh0dt7y.fsf@dick> <8335czbpe6.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1urcryx.fsf@dick> <83tu5f9xfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87r10jcoms.fsf@dick> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35469"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 57669@debbugs.gnu.org To: dick Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 10 16:21:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1MO-00093B-7j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 16:21:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1MM-0002BN-J0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:21:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1Ly-0002BE-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1Ly-0005UB-E5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1Ly-0001F0-2z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57669 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57669-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57669.16628196424720 (code B ref 57669); Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57669) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2022 14:20:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40112 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1Le-0001E3-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:20:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1La-0001Do-5h for 57669@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1LU-0005RQ-VY; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:20:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=y0XWnbe4+8xKXJI1XSxiTPsYpMLC5poIqKKlYB/OmIc=; b=fTlbKkVTZUQ0 m2zlX2Zjl3m4JQ8Cr2bve7Wuan3ybubHapZM8Mg9jz37d71LFITlHVX2avCzPHXbWKVveYsx2p7gq YHM3blixlQUwyEUMsE6KKqYSkjSG1oVIj9uH1Z6TEHtwm4wywq3GHaFrwmpex+XXPddLejSYE8VCu wjfjFU/sjJwwUfgIkZOicWI1sYiRiI2XiqEwJLDvpwmSDuN7KSHw+j1flhUbIQW4p82NR8OPw3+8X /sDx0EnPMxBCEfNzKe5/+szJC6aRpKBZiQWtXtnB0LWRo9JwvRTcGWIc+IYXgfR54DgMvk5YBiY3l jv1OcyMm+QdIdPf0MTWQWg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4732 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oX1LS-0000ph-6T; Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:20:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r10jcoms.fsf@dick> (message from dick on Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:03:55 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242105 Archived-At: > From: dick > Cc: 57669@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:03:55 -0400 > > Like you, I largely dismiss prose but will begrudgingly run a minimum > reproducible example. If it's so simple, please follow your own > bug-reporting advice: > > Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug... > If you can, give a recipe starting from 'emacs -Q' I'm not interested in reporting bugs for a fork of Emacs. I _am_ interested in discussing ideas for making display of long lines in Emacs better, so if you are interested as well, you will respond in kind. Otherwise, I guess this discussion has exhausted itself, at least as far as your participation is concerned. Fortunately, you are not the only participant, and others might be interested in what I have to say. > You'll find that I *always* do this in epic arguments of this scale. > You, I noticed, traffic in hand-wavy refrains like "I've been doing this > for years," "If you read the code, you'd know why," "He simply doesn't > understand the code." This kind of ad hominem usually means you've run out of real arguments.