From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:11:03 +0200 Message-ID: <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21762"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org To: Aaron Jensen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 14:12:24 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9km-0005Up-2m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:12:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9ka-00081E-DA; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:12:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9kR-00080L-BG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:12:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9kR-0007C5-39 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:12:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9kQ-0004S6-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:12:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60220 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60220-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60220.167214666717053 (code B ref 60220); Tue, 27 Dec 2022 13:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60220) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2022 13:11:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9jW-0004Qz-Ok for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47186) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9jU-0004QT-PB for 60220@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:11:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9jO-0006xO-L8; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:10:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=q3PtZ2LMG0YOfi8n9R/E/mACH0AnCRxlfvxstuSWn/c=; b=kMMVOylR9NCL ZcGZPAsdfEDyOMEaFflHkBcsaNNlJvQOByi9yXspCQl0rbI31eSEk+h+c1NkztU8Y1M5gkk0ZIBNm JUc8ll2gl2rYc16e9LQWyterT2Hxm9D2viQ6ARvoa4YYFHhSDhS4MREoXfq8AeOAvhRu7EmKumvqP PJH2iMSJsoFEr3nZiwqKFyFVkpzsd3mp9GXk1pHi6TTF0gFCjrKLqxk9LyEpp93SuTsE9I5Ai4cYT 0VnHC465Zk91lJ58YKsau1U+ssxIUS2XoRx3gJ0qL/BOob3uJ8PqS6p+1rXm+sgZQm79f2PbYXttN HpLpw9k1RoC0ME7kzzGbhQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pA9jN-0001K3-Uh; Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:10:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Aaron Jensen on Tue, 27 Dec 2022 06:12:35 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:251951 Archived-At: > From: Aaron Jensen > Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 06:12:35 -0500 > Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org > > I found a similar issue in another program: > https://forum.xojo.com/t/xojo-2022r3-1-crashes-galore/72887/142 Maybe, maybe not. Your crashes always happen after restarting, right? You don't see crashes inside dlopen if you never restart, correct? But yes, it could be something related. My production session has 260 *.eln files loaded, for example. So if macOS 13 has problems with loading many shared libraries, maybe this is one of the symptoms.