From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60490: 29.0.60; sqlite-mode-open-file fails to work over tramp Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 12:10:08 +0200 Message-ID: <83r0vw5csf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <93862e9b2b44e4ac2217968838ad64e0@sadiqpk.org> <83v8lp14ze.fsf@gnu.org> <83zgak5kbq.fsf@gnu.org> <18d046cdad634772ab0fff852bcf53a0@sadiqpk.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6874"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 60490@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mohammed Sadiq Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 15 11:11:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzyx-0001fg-E5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 11:11:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzyo-0006uH-1U; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:11:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzyg-0006tv-9w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzyg-0003y0-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzyf-00077f-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:11:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60490 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 60490-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60490.167377742327328 (code B ref 60490); Sun, 15 Jan 2023 10:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60490) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2023 10:10:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzy3-00076i-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:10:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzxx-00076M-KU for 60490@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzxr-0003oj-S8; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:10:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=INjK9guwf2TuN/ViUIhiDnXeR1w6kCaCTku/RqhpDjI=; b=mXuiribPpVFC yuv9RPXBOCCJ05bbVOcvmAA8B3yogUKdhPf3Oqabft9moXBB1TvIRG28q/DI6RNdz0oHtUmpNQ2iZ cgiIQ5T2FEIpnls9krbEa9D9qPmleS3dv0HqcaDFWBahXjRqdZ/gRCJRPAzVHmissap9ax+LLI/W9 7uWpR7g7v2P8IUtoC2zHjYNd2DQ2Z1ibJWNV4DmzFMcHraS0HmnXH3IEY6nlr4jhHn1DXenqhMOyW UsQqwMgJFJbBVJavyAM+dexIGCDTxLIJiBifEMd8SZDFJ2kSoeSbPiZMckrPbzsfBAOq9QueomvkS WsEHsUbFYQG8zjriqvY4Yw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pGzxi-00035M-MI; Sun, 15 Jan 2023 05:10:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <18d046cdad634772ab0fff852bcf53a0@sadiqpk.org> (message from Mohammed Sadiq on Sun, 15 Jan 2023 13:49:49 +0530) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253420 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 13:49:49 +0530 > From: Mohammed Sadiq > Cc: 60490@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> In that case, it would be better to show a warning message that > >> it's not supported instead of failing with errors that gives no > >> hint to the user. > > > > I disagree that we should show a warning in such cases. The user > > asked Emacs to do something, and Emacs couldn't; the appropriate > > response is to signal an error, not to show a warning. Showing a > > warning would mean we don't abort whatever Lisp program that was > > trying to do something we cannot do. > > > > I agree that a more targeted error message would be beneficial; > > patches for that are welcome as well. > > An error message was what I meant. I've now added a more meaningful error message to sqlite-mode.el. > >> Also, Emacs may also show the related bug number regarding such > >> issues so that interested users can subscribe to know updates. > > > > We don't have any infrastructure in Emacs for doing stuff like that. > > It would be a useful feature, I think (although not easy to > > implement), but please submit a separate feature request for it. > > I was suggesting to show an error message like: > "sqlite-xxx is not supported over tramp, see bug#xxx" Sorry, no: I don't think it's right for us to have references to bug reports in our sources, let alone in error messages. It's a long-term maintenance problem, especially when we change the issue tracker.