From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62958: [PATCH] Set PAGER=cat in comint.el Date: Tue, 09 May 2023 20:03:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0rpa14d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83edof6oln.fsf@gnu.org> <83zg724kea.fsf@gnu.org> <835y97jnfd.fsf@gnu.org> <83pm7aay70.fsf@gnu.org> <874jol1rml.fsf@catern.com> <831qjpbj8j.fsf@gnu.org> <83wn1ha220.fsf@gnu.org> <83sfc5a1ag.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, 62958@debbugs.gnu.org To: sbaugh@janestreet.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 09 19:03:13 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQk5-0004IO-9q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 19:03:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQjv-0003S4-OK; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQju-0003RH-H9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQju-0005R2-8J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQju-0007ko-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 May 2023 17:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62958 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 62958-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62958.168365173829746 (code B ref 62958); Tue, 09 May 2023 17:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62958) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2023 17:02:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQjB-0007ji-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:02:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQj9-0007jV-SP for 62958@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:02:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQj4-0005Ir-ME; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:02:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=V89oKCIod5RlJM3VnLj2TVfv5F49HJ5GvsUaDwYzdrY=; b=n9vzNbNR6+6c FCBz/ljPemvLSzHFcSpghvteorg3oj6z87it2gGNUmAngVAetPMLYKMys1sy/+B5zV4HVSKs/KQyt IrO3Dvl9TaYPFRy/uDdQSDyYBtrjkKRFRZfV+aE/JcVYZzUzfz4hORD1JryUrVxWSDg2h+7L3GeNH k+Rq5DfELIX87RGTyIgFFWdUu+rZgSlsxucNkCwhiwTr5TnAEMHgNbHgCTMa9DY48xGO5WL+JDFYG 4LMG14E4YS2Pro5rGa5ETya/m8JiM8ZuadUesFrDv7Z3tEGRzQSNJrHJQmSNx1gCvge0qhRqAW1lw H17fwJU0mjZcqUawzsjiIA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pwQj4-0007Pp-4s; Tue, 09 May 2023 13:02:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83sfc5a1ag.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 09 May 2023 19:59:35 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261433 Archived-At: > Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, 62958@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 May 2023 19:59:35 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > I'm asking why this is not already obvious from the fact that this is > a defcustom, by default off. All your addition says is "don't disable > paging in all cases, sometimes it can be useful". But we already said > that, in effect, by making the paging enabled by default. So there's > no reason to have that text, as it isn't instrumental, and doesn't add > anything. Or let me turn the table and ask whether the following minor rephrasing of what I proposed will satisfy you: Pagination is normally not needed, and might get in the way, when the output of the program is directed to an Emacs buffer, so in those cases pagination might need to be disabled. To disable pagination, this variable's value should be a string that names a program, such as \"cat\", which passes through all of the output without any filtering or delays. Comint will then set the PAGER variable to name that program, when it invokes external programs."