From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65267: 30.0.50; modifying debug-ignored-errors during startup with --debug-init is broken Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 05:26:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0o6bbqw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813190826+0200.765169-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813223458+0200.843367-stepnem@smrk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32639"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 65267@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 14 04:27:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNId-0008Ha-1v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 04:27:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNIO-00039e-4x; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNIM-00039U-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNIM-00042d-Ea for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNIM-0007ze-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 02:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65267 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 65267-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65267.169197998630675 (code B ref 65267); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 02:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65267) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 02:26:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60505 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNHl-0007yg-JX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:26:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNHj-0007yQ-14 for 65267@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qVNHc-0003xI-Vy; Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:26:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=+eVK+geP4G6JKxFeSF3rkdibW3aWjdAeLdWG96Ezih4=; b=pCrMnM64vXiHvjidxP9q MShJFUg7oGxXzaMPPb6T/XHuG6cAk/K6yUmKsLDVa3Q2LeGWMigV2wCbuYw25rISil05a85CSOEQn hHtV3dfwozsTrc+jZp3qqcdFvd10VXNUX/XADtpGC18/N4UMnGwQ0EXJoNMtxvvWeDGMKZbNFTwD6 ozQAv8mfzvKDtzGQjTTAFy0SmX20Q5BCKvHmyiZkWKMUIS3D+fIc2WaCr6Bfel7Wx/jrC65zqYUL8 D4Qx1YW2/13fzl9ESgvTrpUSjrZqTZQhYQvxvGsKfYXbxMEzjmSZ5CiYj//KiEhnJDM7unPZeYLlT zTUUUzXGDZTfJw==; In-Reply-To: <20230813223458+0200.843367-stepnem@smrk.net> (message from =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= on Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:34:58 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267390 Archived-At: > From: Štěpán Němec > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 65267@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky > > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:34:58 +0200 > > So, yes, I agree that end-of-file (which indeed isn't unlikely to occur > during loading) now ending up in the debugger is an improvement. > > Checking git history, I also see that end-of-file has been in > debug-ignored-errors since forever, but I still can't rid myself of > doubts regarding its usefulness there. Would you have an explanation > for that, too? Other than it not fitting with the others (IMHO), its > absence there would likely save us all this (bug#64163 and the ensuing > mess). I find any of the other members of debug-ignored-errors being > triggered during startup much less likely. (And, OTOH, why would I want > to ignore end-of-file during interactive use with d-o-e set?) It is not ignored, it just doesn't enter the debugger.