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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org,
	65908@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com,
	ccsmile2008@outlook.com
Subject: bug#65908: 29.1.50; Emacs 29 regresses on macOS
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 20:02:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0m92ea6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZR7ldIZ3YIJKjTXs@idiocy.org> (message from Alan Third on Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:33:56 +0100)

> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:33:56 +0100
> From: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
> Cc: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
> 	ccsmile2008@outlook.com, 65908@debbugs.gnu.org,
> 	gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
> 
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2023 at 07:11:01PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  gregory@heytings.org,
> > >   65908@debbugs.gnu.org,  stefankangas@gmail.com,  ccsmile2008@outlook.com
> > > Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:18:42 +0200
> > > 
> > > I'd like to propose the attached patch for problem of invalid LANG
> > > setting.  This simply falls back to "en_US.UTF-8" if LANG isn't valid,
> > > or something valid can't be deduced from the locale.
> > 
> > Why is it reasonable to force the UTF-8 codeset as the fallback?
> 
> Both the macOS terminals I have access to use UTF-8 as their default,
> and I'm not sure if they even let you change it. Therefore it seemed
> reasonable to me that the default for Emacs should also be UTF-8.

Are you saying that macOS doesn't support non-UTF-8 encodings?

> > What about having a variable exposed to Lisp that allows the users to
> > control the fallback value of LANG?
> 
> Is this not too early in startup for that? If not then couldn't the
> user just use setenv and avoid this whole thing?

Maybe that's fine, I just asked a question.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13  6:47 bug#65908: 29.1.50; Emacs 29 regresses on macOS Zhang Haijun
2023-10-04  5:44 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04  7:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-04  7:50     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04  8:29       ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-04  8:32         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04  9:02         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-10-04  9:12           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04  9:12           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-04 10:55             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04 12:43               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-04 21:16                 ` Alan Third
2023-10-05  5:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05  5:55                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05  6:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05  8:52                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05  9:48                         ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 11:12                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 13:18                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 16:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:33                                 ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 16:38                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 17:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-10-05 17:15                                     ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 13:51                             ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 14:01                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 14:09                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 14:58                                 ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 15:11                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 16:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:39                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 17:06                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 18:08                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-10-05 13:56                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 16:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 16:26                                 ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 16:43                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 16:36                                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 17:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05 17:15                                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 18:25                                       ` Alan Third
2023-10-05 18:33                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05 18:46                                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-05  8:58             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-10-05  9:03               ` Gregory Heytings

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