From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Native compilation on as default? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 17:18:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0liiy44.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83legs281v.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33776"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 25 16:19:48 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qvejb-0008ba-Gw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 16:19:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qveim-0000NG-9s; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:18:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qveil-0000N8-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qveil-0000xj-CC; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:18:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sBnp9XU48aixxeN6/Ki9VU8wPBD3zYTm6Vm1yCvzbO8=; b=jFX5Phs2yvvY 7CCPUylBOJvLphKiEu2ETmqqj/zgDm77toiBTT1PMbdzuz1rIwtOaIYlk+ylLOMZzmNbRZJqjXxN5 /wsws63UJwwGTQjINTJlmH/X65rLxDcN+HA5ZHYqUM5ZW3exZfacwOKa8QAZeMjT11MwntGtzO+l+ l3Tq4CVfqCuObqL5NWh4hsogN9HgNgFyK9ypPQ1Efyi6jifbKSrN0HJ+tgCtWX8HCo9GtUHGvdlGS uv4HyBwf+CwBGHPLQ5RVuvWlbJsdHfSrpzrEO4rQI9xX7W1nCnM9/gL9U1OXvzspTDRUSl3LzWStc /F0ejyuUHUSdn88cyqYBfg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:11:36 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311847 Archived-At: > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:11:36 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Andrea Corallo > >> Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2023 04:44:12 -0400 > >> > >> native compilation was off by default in 28 and same will be for 29. I > >> believe the 28 series proved this feature to be stable. > >> > >> Also I read a number of dristros (Fedora, Debian, openSUSE, Arch, > >> Gentoo, NixOS, Guix) offer Emacs with native compilation on. > >> > >> What about having it on as default for emacs 30? In case two scenarios: > >> > >> 1- On by default when libgccjit is present otherwise off. > >> > >> 2- On by default and if libgccjit is not present we raise a complain at > >> configure time, the user can either install libgccjit or manually > >> indicate --with-native-compilation=no. > >> > >> WDYT? > > > > I'd like to wait with this decision until after Emacs 29.1 is out. We > > made several non-trivial changes in native compilation in Emacs 29, so > > I'd like to see how it fares and how it is received by the community. > > Hi Eli, > > 29.2 pretest out reminded me I promised to ping this thread so here I'm > :) Stefan, what is your opinion on this?