From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:11:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83pqzwjkn9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83fx0slhxn.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276359122 26752 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 16:12:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, dak@gnu.org, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 18:12:00 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONTJL-00065G-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49455 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONTJK-0006Se-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:11:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44979 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONTJC-0006QA-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONTJA-0002Oe-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:41459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONTJ7-0002OE-RM; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 12:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L3W00E00SVXD100@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:11:40 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.88.125]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L3W00CHKSZD2X80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:11:39 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125821 Archived-At: > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:49:25 +0200 > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, dak@gnu.org, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-de= vel@gnu.org >=20 > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrot= e: > >> From: Lennart Borgman > >> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:09:44 +0200 > >> Cc: Chong Yidong , Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM, James Cloos = wrote: > >> > > >> > In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically. > >> > >> Seems like a mistake to me. > > > > What is the mistake? =C2=A0What do you think James described by t= he above > > sentence? >=20 > I read it as meaning that the arrow keys does not always move > visually. (I.e. right arrow keys could move to the left.) Only when the bidirectional context changes, e.g. you traverse a R2L text in a L2R paragraph. > Are you saying that the right arrow key etc will always move visual= ly > to the right? No. Cursor motion works in the logical order, not in the visual order.