From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:17:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278760817 22445 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 11:20:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 10 13:20:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXY6S-0008JZ-0X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:20:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXY6R-0007G6-D7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=38236 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXY6M-0007G1-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXY6K-0003Du-SP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:20:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:52136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXY6K-0003Dd-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L5C00F00A1ZNT00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:19:34 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.120.144]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L5C00DPNA4LPX50@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:19:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126986 Archived-At: > From: Tom > Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:36:46 +0000 (UTC) > > Is there a compelling reason to still use yank/kill, instead of copy/cut/paste? >From the Emacs manual: * Killing:: Killing (cutting) text. * Yanking:: Recovering killed text. Moving text. (Pasting.) and then: 12 Killing and Moving Text ************************** "Killing" means erasing text and copying it into the "kill ring", from which you can bring it back into the buffer by "yanking" it. (Some applications use the terms "cutting" and "pasting" for similar operations.) > Why do we call the cursor the point? Because point is not the cursor. The cursor only shows the position of point in the visible windows (and on character terminals, only in the single selected window). We still need a term for the ``current position in the buffer''. > These relics of old terminology should be updated to the accepted modern > variants to make the documentation is more accessible for emacs newbies. And then they will be queuing up to start using Emacs, no doubt.