From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed? Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:53:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83pq8qb35y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9809cd1a-9086-4022-af79-732fb6149f20@q5g2000pba.googlegroups.com> <87mx3vzqd7.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87ipejzjce.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <4FE45F11.2060105@easy-emacs.de> <874nq35wh3.wl%lists@groll.co.za> <87bokaw9dh.fsf@nzebook.haselwarter.org> <87395mxmg4.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87395mw6hd.fsf@nzebook.haselwarter.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340456002 25923 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2012 12:53:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:53:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 23 14:53:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SiPq4-0000OE-OI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:53:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47121 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiPq4-0007Xc-PN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48525) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiPpx-0007PN-TR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiPpw-0002Ux-63 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:51900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiPpv-0002Ui-UU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M6200300MFBTK00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:53:10 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M62003J6MGLAYB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:53:10 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87395mw6hd.fsf@nzebook.haselwarter.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85392 Archived-At: > From: Philipp Haselwarter > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:35:58 +0200 > > > The Emacs distribution (.tar.gz) contains all bells and whistles but not > > everything is loaded into memory. What is loaded by default is pretty > > much only the Emacs Lisp interpreter and the editing core and autoload > > definitions for other features. > > I don't know for a fact what is loaded by default You can see that in loadup.el. > but the distribution surely contains a lot of elisp programs that > are not of interest for most users. So what? They are just taking some disk space, that's all. > > And Emacs is a very light-weight program by today's standards. I think > > it was bloated in the 80's. > > On my 64bit linux system the emacs executable weights in at 13M, feel > free to comparing that to any other interpreter. Not because of preloaded packages; those take maybe 30% of the size.