From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13503: 24.3.50; option `scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion' Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <83pq0zq0lz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1DFDD947649342FC9CC723E0DBC7DBF2@us.oracle.com> <83r4lgplar.fsf@gnu.org> <0C40FAA8B97C43979D93F2C7CD29DDE6@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358699411 17370 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 16:30:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13503@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 17:30:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Twxmt-0001mz-JB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:30:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44408 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twxmc-00028w-Ib for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwxmZ-00027D-5w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwxmX-00066f-AP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36246) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwxmX-00065D-7x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwxnS-0004yW-Rh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:31:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13503 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13503-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13503.135869942919076 (code B ref 13503); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13503) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 16:30:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Twxmv-0004xd-7f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:58294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Twxmr-0004xR-01 for 13503@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 11:30:26 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGX00800MZ9PA00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13503@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:29:15 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGX0084KN4RPK00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:29:15 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <0C40FAA8B97C43979D93F2C7CD29DDE6@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70090 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13503@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:33:08 -0800 > > > Since it's only available on X (based on features that need X), you > > don't see its doc string on Windows. > > Windows users should either not have the variable at all or they should see its > doc, which should let them know that it is not usable on Windows. It is wrong > for them to have the variable and not be able to see its doc. What do you mean by "have the variable"? If I try to evaluate it on Windows, I get an error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion) eval(scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion nil) eval-last-sexp-1(t) eval-last-sexp(t) eval-print-last-sexp() call-interactively(eval-print-last-sexp nil nil) This is what I'd expect, and it seems so would you. So where's the problem exactly? > And NEWS should call out the fact that it is only for Emacs that uses X Window. Agreed. > We currently say nothing at all about this option in NEWS, except that it is > new. In that case, (all) users must be able to get info about it from Emacs in > some other way, e.g., C-h v or a manual. It will probably get fixed before the release. Or should be.