From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: don't show the $-bar that indicates text before and/or after the window view, horizontally Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:41:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83ppu6v5vs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871a4299-aefc-4982-b90f-ef3f4d3b2176@googlegroups.com> <87ppu7qdo2.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <871u6mtuyl.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3keseko.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374777737 7102 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 18:42:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 20:42:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QUT-0008SS-NO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:42:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43791 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QUT-00069D-CO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:42:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50409) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QUI-000675-II for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QUH-0003Ff-GG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:60222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2QUH-0003FP-89 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MQI00C0098ZUN00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:42:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MQI00CHI9A3QS60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:42:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87k3keseko.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92420 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:02:31 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> What you said was basically: > >> > >> "You should read, and as you don't even understand A, you > >> shouldn't mess with B, that's too advanced." (pseudo-quote, but > >> that's what you said) > > > > I said nothing of the kind. What I said was basically "It's > > quite clear that you don't understand the issues discussed here, > > so I suggest to go read about that, and then you'd probably > > understand much better the solutions proposed to you." > > I don't believe that. I think my summary is much more > accurate. I've told you what I meant. No one else can know that better than I do. > But - even what you write now: apart from some confusion regarding > TTY/X terminal Emacs vs. X GUI Emacs, my understanding grew by the > post - which is natural - and how could it be in any other way? If > the person asking a question already understood everything about > it, why ask? I didn't say you shouldn't ask. I answered your questions. What I'm saying is that there's a limit to what can be explained in a message posted to a forum. The manual has much more. You'd rob yourself if you limit your learning to what people say here, even if we assume, wrongly, that no one of them is ever mistaken. Not only will you learn more from the documentation, your questions will become deeper, more sophisticated, and more interesting to answer. It's your call.