From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Prefer Mercurial instead of git
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:17:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ppo6tkjx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txdi74mc.fsf@wanadoo.es>
> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:52:43 +0100
>
> The fact that some feature or command-line switch exists on git doesn't
> mean that you "need to know it because it is useful". Supposing that
> they are useful for *your use case*, it might not be time-effective to
> learn and memorize that feature. I'm happily and efficaciously using git
> from several years now and there are entire areas which are completely
> unknown for me.
>
> So mentioning the complexity of git when, in practice, you just need a
> few minutes tutorial to use it with Magit and less than an hour for
> adquiring a sound knowledge of its architecture (which allows a more
> effective learning and usage), is a red herring, indeed.
If we are supposed to restrict ourselves to what VC or Magit offer,
then why do we need to switch to git? One of the main reasons, we are
told, is that git is so powerful, and can be used to do jobs that bzr
users can only dream about. Why do you want me to artificially
restrain myself from learning those powerful features and using them
to my benefit?
IOW, a change in a major development tool is not an easy decision
precisely _because_ it requires one to learn the new tool, and learn
it thoroughly. Otherwise, the switch is a waste of energy. Saying
that the complexity is a red herring because one should simply
disregard the complex and the powerful features makes very little
sense to me. Would you suggest that someone uses Emacs as a fancy
Notepad, just because the rest is not really needed? I doubt that.
Now, I didn't mean, of course, that one must familiarize oneself with
all the commands and options. But the key concepts, the "soul" of the
tool, its basic principles of operation and its philosophy -- without
learning that, you will never be able to use that one command that
solves a particular problem, when you need that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-05 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-03 21:52 Prefer Mercurial instead of git Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 10:11 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 10:20 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 10:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 13:13 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 13:29 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 14:23 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 14:38 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 15:19 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 15:24 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 16:51 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 17:16 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 17:31 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 17:40 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 18:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-04 19:26 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 11:07 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-04 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 18:25 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 12:26 ` Darren Hoo
2014-01-06 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 19:33 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-04 14:40 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 12:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 13:19 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 13:25 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-05 13:55 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 15:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 16:18 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-05 16:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 17:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 23:26 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-06 0:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-06 1:01 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-06 0:03 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 17:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 23:03 ` Dov Feldstern
2014-01-05 23:23 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-05 23:37 ` Dov Feldstern
2014-01-06 4:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 13:56 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 14:12 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-04 16:08 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-01-04 16:41 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 18:37 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 18:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-01-04 19:04 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-04 19:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 16:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 16:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-01-05 17:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 18:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-05 21:07 ` Sean Sieger
2014-01-06 0:12 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 0:21 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2014-01-06 0:30 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-06 2:24 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-06 16:51 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-06 17:13 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-06 3:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-05 3:13 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-05 17:16 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-01-06 0:17 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 2:14 ` Karl Fogel
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2014-01-06 13:08 grischka
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