From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lax matching is not a great default behavior Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 13:19:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83poymh35v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837fl2qzs2.fsf@gnu.org> <83610ikvto.fsf@gnu.org> <83bna6ipn7.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpsuh6cr.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvtqv5ue.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449228001 12115 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2015 11:20:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 11:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, per@starback.se, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 12:19:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4oP1-00016X-Tl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:19:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40052 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4oP1-0004EZ-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 06:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35153) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4oOx-0004E0-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 06:19:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4oOw-0002yP-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 06:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:36820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4oOs-0002xt-Cq; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 06:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NYT00J00Z3GKY00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 13:19:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NYT00J5EZGOKD40@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 13:19:37 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87mvtqv5ue.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195882 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 11:57:45 +0100 > Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, Per Starb=E4ck , > =09rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 > >> I didn't follow its creation, but I don't think users generally = expect > >> that (yet). (I just checked searches in Gedit and Firefox where = there > >> were no such features, at least not in the versions that are sta= ndard > >> in my operating system distribution.) > > > > Try more serious editing environments. E.g., MS Word does that b= y > > default. >=20 > That's not editing but text processing. So we are talking about > text-mode defaults here rather than general editing defaults. Making character folding the default in Text Mode and its descendants is a possibility we should consider, yes. Though we should also consider the fact that prog-mode and its descendants are meant for editing program sources, where comments and strings with human-readable text are not uncommon.