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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 f8208b6: Document the user-level features of the Xref package
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:41:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83powxbh6c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <569D64AC.1060606@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:18:20 +0300)

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:18:20 +0300
> 
> On 01/18/2016 08:31 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > I tried to improve the manual according to your comments, please have
> 
> Thank you, Eli. I think it's good now, but see a couple of nits below.
> 
> > a look.  (I suggest to read the Info manual, not look at the diffs.)
> 
> I did that too, after some usual (for me) flailing around, to find the 
> needed node in the manual. The diff turned out to be more useful, 
> though, because I was able to quickly see what was removed, and what was 
> changed.

Some of the discussion we had before was about the structure of this
section.  You cannot see the structure from the diffs, which is why I
suggested to read the formatted manual.

>  > If there is a tags table loaded, this command can use it to
> +generate completion candidates more intelligently.
> 
> That implies that we have some "dumber" completion sources than etags in 
> Emacs. I don't think we do, currently. tags-completion-at-point-function 
> is the default value of completion-at-point-functions, and we use it as 
> the last resort if the major mode (or any minor mode) don't provide any 
> specialized completion functions. Then, if no tags table is loaded, we 
> don't provide any completions at all, not even stupid ones. I'd suggest 
> to simply remove "more intelligently".

Thanks, I tweaked that text some more.

>  > +  A @dfn{tag} is a synonym for identifier reference.  @xref{Xref}.
> 
> Maybe that's technically true, but as employed by Emacs usually, tags 
> are elements of TAGS file, generated by the 'etags' program, and they 
> only reference identifier definitions.

The manual in its previous form said:

  A "tag" is a reference to a subunit in a program or in a document.

This is now replaced with

  An "identifier" is a name of a syntactical subunit of the program...

So in this regard, a "tag" is indeed a synonym for "identifier".
There's nothing that can prevent recording references in tags table
format.

In any case, changing terminology in that subsection means a serious
rewrite of it in its entirety.  I see no reason for such an effort.  I
moved the offending sentence to a footnote (with some explanation why
we change terminology in this subsection), so people who already know
what "tag" is will need not stumble upon this.

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <E1aHyy4-0006rU-Td@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-01-10  3:02   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 f8208b6: Document the user-level features of the Xref package Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 15:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 18:05       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 18:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 19:32           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-10 20:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-10 21:11               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-11  3:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-11 16:55                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-11 17:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-11 19:09               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-11 19:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-11 19:41                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-11 20:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-11 20:21                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-18 17:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-18 22:18                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-19 17:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-01-19 21:53                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-20  4:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-20  7:28                               ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 20:53                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-20 21:03                                   ` John Wiegley
2016-01-20 21:09                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 19:01                                     ` Stephen Leake
2016-01-21 20:32                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21  3:46                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21  3:28                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 17:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 18:46                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 19:00                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 19:46                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 20:02                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 20:10                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 20:32                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-21 21:40                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24  2:20                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-24 15:29                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 20:38                                                   ` Ken Brown
2016-01-25 20:52                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 21:29                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-26  2:44                                                       ` Ken Brown
2016-01-26  6:22                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 19:19                                   ` Stephen Leake
2016-01-21 19:26                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22  7:40                                       ` Stephen Leake
2016-01-22  8:21                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 10:46                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-22 13:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 10:07                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-01-21 20:09                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-22 18:16                                       ` John Yates
2016-01-19  5:36     ` John Wiegley
2016-01-19  5:47       ` Dmitry Gutov

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