From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#23750: 25.0.95; bug in url-retrieve or json.el Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:48:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83polcpzwk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6d0c8c2e-8428-2fdb-0d6e-899f7b9d7ffd@nifty.com> <8053af81-80e1-a24a-f649-8ffc86963ed5@nifty.com> <0cc7fab4-9a2c-6a8d-def7-36bd50317ca3@yandex.ru> <7f9a799f-de88-fd78-0cdc-dac0928f1503@nifty.com> <308bb78f-8be3-092d-d877-e129d340242b@nifty.com> <4dc615e7-ec73-60a5-426e-0d6986f15d76@yandex.ru> <0cb406fb-ffc4-a4ad-557a-2cacc99b8e75@nifty.com> <86ccb4af-5719-c017-26bb-fc06b4c904d2@yandex.ru> <83r35uxkr5.fsf@gnu.org> <4e12d4ad-cd6b-3087-5d7c-449d4c1886e2@yandex.ru> <83lgw1q9uu.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg1tq8is.fsf@gnu.org> <787e5206-53e0-752f-a339-4608d2f7ad39@yandex.ru> <8360n5q6j4.fsf@gnu.org> <8337i8rkbe.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480531726 417 195.159.176.226 (30 Nov 2016 18:48:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, kentaro.nakazawa@nifty.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 19:48:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9vq-0007Bm-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:48:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45740 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9vu-0007We-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9vl-0007VS-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9vk-0003a6-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9vb-0003YY-9Q; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:23 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2615 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cC9va-0003Ms-Dk; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:48:22 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Philipp Stephani on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:25:09 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209826 Archived-At: > From: Philipp Stephani > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:25:09 +0000 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, kentaro.nakazawa@nifty.com, dgutov@yandex.ru > > > That's right -- why should any code care? Yet url.el does. > > No, it doesn't, not if the string is plain ASCII. > > But in that case it isn't, it's morally a byte array. Yes, because the internal representation of characters in Emacs is a superset of UTF-8. > What Emacs lacks is good support for byte arrays. Unibyte strings are byte arrays. What do you think we lack in that regard? > For HTTP, process-send-string shouldn't need to deal > with encoding or EOL conversion, it should just accept a byte array and send that, unmodified. I disagree. Handling unibyte strings is a nuisance, so Emacs allows most applications be oblivious about them, and just handle human-readable text.