From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yes, please allow pre-configuration of first frame [was: Blink Cursor mode is off by default] Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:31:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83po0s15qc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838t7lqnf0.fsf@gnu.org> <83zi01p6th.fsf@gnu.org> <13a2189b89d06be494cbc21561713d5d.squirrel@dancol.org> <83o9ggpwfs.fsf@gnu.org> <98930BC3-F62C-4BFF-8B06-8CFB65E8D243@gnu.org> <5659356aea4cdccd07e28e441c1ae98b.squirrel@dancol.org> <871sd8kugv.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529077096 8951 195.159.176.226 (15 Jun 2018 15:38:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 15 17:38:12 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fTqnk-0002FB-AN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:38:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47630 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTqpr-0007cv-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTplL-0007Hj-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:31:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTplH-0004eg-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:31:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47599) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fTplH-0004ea-7I; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:31:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1553 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fTplG-0001jE-KJ; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:31:35 -0400 In-reply-to: <871sd8kugv.fsf_-_@moondust.localdomain> (nljlistbox2@gmail.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:226332 Archived-At: > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 10:14:24 -0400 > > It would certainly seem to be a nice improvement if the first > frame was not displayed before all the user configuration > effecting its size and appearance was available. While it is > superficial and thus unimportant in some ways, the current > behaviour with flashing/jumping frames looks unprofessional > and makes a poor first impression. > > It doesn't sound right, though, that a fix for this should > involve the user having to mess around with intiialisation > order etc. -- it should "just work". I agree. A warning, though: this task is not for the faint at heart, there are quite a few obstacles to negotiate, to do this without breaking several important features that get set up at startup. > It seems that this might be a worthwhile project for "someone" > to work on? Yes. I suggest to file a wishlist bug report about that, and perhaps also add it to TODO. Thanks.