From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some developement questions Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:44:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83pny00y1q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sh36inql.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org> <8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org> <877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org> <871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <87k1oeaofu.fsf@ada> <20180825103413.gbm5stsl67j6weow@Ergus> <87k1od7vzf.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83wosd5h3x.fsf@gnu.org> <871sakzssu.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83bm9n6f7d.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvneql3i.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83o9dl2oob.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3coopyf.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1535637361 2935 195.159.176.226 (30 Aug 2018 13:56:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, radon.neon@gmail.com, flexibeast@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: hw Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 30 15:55:57 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNQR-0000dm-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:55:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49076 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNSY-0005sw-3n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41364) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNR4-0002pF-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:56:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNFB-0003PH-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:44:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNFB-0003PD-JF; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3483 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fvNFB-00016T-77; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:44:17 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y3coopyf.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> (message from hw on Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:52:40 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229098 Archived-At: > From: hw > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, radon.neon@gmail.com, flexibeast@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:52:40 +0200 > > The whole section about the --tramp-prefix= option confused me. It has an example, which should have cleared up things. However, I'm not yet convinced that option is for your use case, because I don't yet understand your use case well enough. > I have menu and toolbar disabled ... Unless you loathe the mouse, C-mouse-3 will pop up the same menu as the one that would have been available from the menu bar. > I ended up getting stuck in the help documentation of info and > actually had to kill the buffer to be able to start over because I > couldn't get anywhere else from there. Typing 'q' (for "quit") would have been a better and easier way out. But there's nothing wrong with killing the Info buffer, either. > >> And what file is there to access when I want an X frame? > > > > When you invoke emacsclient, you usually ask it to visit a file, > > right? > > Wrong; the files are usually already loaded, either because Emacs keeps > running on the server, or because desktop-mode has already restored > them. That's irrelevant, because eventually you'd want to access files. That's what Emacs is for, right? > I'd like to use the Emacs server that runs remotely on the server from > my workstation with an emacsclient running locally on the workstation > directly without X11 forwarding via ssh for the frames, and I'd like to > be able to also use 'emacsclient -nw' on the workstation, using the > emacs server on the server. Is this a single use case or two separate ones? Assuming they are separate: for the first one, is using the -dDISPLAY option (without any client) what you want? And for the second, did you try using server-use-tcp? > I understand that the Emacs server can not open the virtual terminal > when using 'emacsclient -nw' because from its perspective, that is a > remote file. I'm afraid I don't understand why you need to run "emacsclient -nw" on another machine. Why not remotely login and run emacsclient there?