From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rcopley@gmail.com, 35739@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com
Subject: bug#35739: Bad signature from GNU ELPA
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22:43:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83pno74ozv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy32vzmgs.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 24 May 2019 15:31:42 -0400)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: rcopley@gmail.com, 35739@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:31:42 -0400
>
> > And why is that relevant to the issue at hand, which is not to make
> > backward-incompatible changes in existing APIs?
>
> I consider myself fairly well versed in Emacs's coding systems. Yet,
> I don't know what decoding text into a unibyte buffer will do and can't
> find any doc that describes it.
>
> I such a context, I think preserving such a behavior is harmful in the
> long term because it will keep fundamentally buggy code half-working
> and keep spreading confusion about how coding systems work and people
> copy&pasting broken code.
>
> In the long term, I think we're better off introducing limited
> breakage where it leads to clearer errors that help clear up such
> confusions and fix bugs.
I disagree. This stuff worked for decades, and breaking it only
because it is under-documented is not a good idea. I'm okay with
documenting what that produces somewhere, but not with breaking it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-24 19:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-14 21:25 bug#35739: Bad signature from GNU ELPA Richard Copley
2019-05-14 21:37 ` bug#35739: Acknowledgement (Bad signature from GNU ELPA) Richard Copley
2019-05-14 22:04 ` bug#35739: Bad signature from GNU ELPA Noam Postavsky
2019-05-14 22:26 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-14 22:42 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-15 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 7:13 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-15 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-15 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18 22:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-22 5:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-22 16:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-22 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-22 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 3:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23 4:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 4:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-23 12:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-23 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24 14:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-24 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-24 19:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-24 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-05-24 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-25 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-25 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-25 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 6:46 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-15 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-15 15:12 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-29 18:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 19:11 ` Richard Copley
2019-05-29 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 20:50 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-30 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-31 4:54 ` Stefan Monnier
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