From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Suggest installing more fonts?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:13:35 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83pn5iuxds.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2010161453440453.18725@sdf.lonestar.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 12:59:47 +0000)
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 12:59:47 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <ghe@sdf.org>
> cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> >> A suggestion: would it not be better to include a version of GNU
> >> Unifont in Emacs?
> >
> > Including a font with Emacs is problematic, since installing a font
> > requires system-wide actions.
>
> PDF readers use the fonts embedded in PDF files, so I would guess that
> Emacs could use a built-in font (without installing it).
This is not currently supported, AFAIK: Emacs uses the likes of
Fontconfig facilities to search for suitable fonts given a character.
> > (Personally, I think Unifont is an ugly font, with many character glyphs
> > completely illegible, and distributing is with Emacs will only cause us
> > look unprofessional. But that's my personal view.)
>
> It is an ugly font indeed, the point is only to use it in place of the
> (even more ugly) boxes with a hex code. I think it is ugly "by design",
> it aims at a very broad coverage without becoming too large.
You know it and I know it, but most users won't. They will just see
the ugly glyphs. Whether that is less or more ugly than the "tofu" we
show is in the eyes of the beholder; my personal opinion is above.
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2020-10-16 10:54 Suggest installing more fonts? Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-16 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 11:30 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 12:59 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-10-16 14:38 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 16:09 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 13:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-16 14:08 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 15:51 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 13:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-16 13:30 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2020-10-17 6:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-16 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 6:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-17 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-18 8:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-18 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 8:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-19 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 10:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-20 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 10:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-21 11:31 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21 11:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-21 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 16:03 ` tofu-help-mode (was: Suggest installing more fonts?) Stefan Monnier
2020-10-22 12:07 ` tofu-help-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-22 15:21 ` tofu-help-mode Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 10:46 ` tofu-help-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-21 17:46 ` Suggest installing more fonts? Michael Albinus
2020-10-21 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 7:27 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-22 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 16:53 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-23 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-25 11:47 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-25 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 17:25 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 11:59 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-10-21 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-21 12:31 ` Stephen Berman
2020-10-21 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 20:19 ` Rasmus
2020-10-22 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 12:34 ` Rasmus
2020-10-22 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 20:19 ` Rasmus
2020-10-22 11:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-22 12:02 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-22 12:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-22 12:29 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-22 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-23 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 8:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-23 11:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 15:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-23 16:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 18:43 ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-23 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 9:35 ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-23 10:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-23 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 18:18 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-22 13:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 13:40 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-22 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 14:20 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-22 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-16 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-17 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 19:42 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 22:14 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-16 22:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-16 23:02 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 7:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 11:21 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 13:09 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 13:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 16:09 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 17:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 18:36 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 19:18 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-17 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-18 8:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-18 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-17 17:30 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-18 4:12 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-18 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 22:46 ` Stephen Leake
2020-10-17 6:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-17 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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