From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 22:13:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83pn0tw564.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z2o4fes.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0r1xwyy.fsf@gnu.org> <83blcdxqzy.fsf@gnu.org> <831rd9xox5.fsf@gnu.org> <3801b6be-dd65-c256-6c57-52894fad2b12@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 21:17:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDvAT-00022j-Ir for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:17:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50544 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDvAS-0008Co-0o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:17:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv7C-00062W-Bw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:14:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv7B-0003xO-Vj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:14:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv7B-0005Gi-Rp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:14:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 20:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46627 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 46627-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46627.161393843420232 (code B ref 46627); Sun, 21 Feb 2021 20:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46627) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2021 20:13:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv74-0005GG-70 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:13:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47460) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv72-0005G5-OS for 46627@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:13:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv6w-0003rk-TY; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2499 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDv6V-0006Lg-Cp; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 15:13:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <3801b6be-dd65-c256-6c57-52894fad2b12@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:57:25 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200526 Archived-At: > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, 46627@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 21:57:25 +0200 > > On 21.02.2021 20:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I'm arguing against the tendency to introduce a whole new discovery > > framework based on completion. I think Emacs doesn't need that in > > core; whoever wants something like that, can use one of the many > > packages out there which implement every possible completion paradigm > > under the sun. We as the core development team should not invest any > > significant energy in developing such framework, but should instead > > improve and enhance what we already have. > > I think we've "had it" ever since 'M-x' started providing completion. And I tried to explain why this is a bad starting point.