From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Alternatives for reliable build environments for emacs? Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:08:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83pmrprv1h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bl39cnr4.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> <83zgqts28b.fsf@gnu.org> <871r45ciyp.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40270"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 28 18:43:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mg8V2-000AIH-NO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:43:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg8V1-0004PB-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:43:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg7xZ-0002yj-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg7xZ-0006DN-6M; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:08:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Uc739Ok8TrVWvaolXTOFI5BRZWhQf4iIvnNz5Tc+BAo=; b=CKdV6S7bEIsw xek6vrnp1jJ8qHxnLduFNtT1uPsl0gNR+M8Pishdh3b7gfYtRByG7zmLFHd4RDvCi7wbthJI//RCO /4wYIo520Ohi6p9B8i6OBfy2NKSC8jZjWLeMbNFnlHC7eeket/PB5NNAtHani7rbxijDyflW69kz/ v0CBCmxugFL1gaeuofW5AJK2w5uzhMAsoQ2unXho2B60TLGrjCAfjBEhK5bucAsL3BSjldKrCji8g ydB5cu7bCbsCMmjPO0Rb2UDbMx0pB3DUDfyb/hRriWpJ5C11XHNmGhqeOVubfkGvL5aDV0czHvx6D vp7oTnsHf4BcmkCyVwO3Tg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3656 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mg7xY-0001FL-MF; Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:08:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871r45ciyp.fsf@tanaka.verona.se> (joakim@verona.se) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278127 Archived-At: > From: joakim@verona.se > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:38:54 +0200 > > >> I'm finding it increasingly difficult to build emacs in my distro, > >> Fedora(Ok, I havent managed to build emacs using distro dependencies for > >> a long time) > > > > Why? what are the difficulties? > > In my case one of the problems that started the downward spiral was the versions shipped of gnutls in > fedora which didnt work with emacs. Which version of GnuTLS was that? And what was the rest of the spiral? > The separate aproach of building all the dependencies emacs need in a > separate build environment does work, like the Guix aproach. I'd say build all the dependencies that aren't already available, yes.