From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52839: 29.0.50; The '(declare (modes MODE...))' NEWS entry is confusing Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:47:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83pmpfjwno.fsf@gnu.org> References: <701c3a8d-d7d4-cdb8-6e10-0212db7bc35e@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4118"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 52839@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 15:48:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aFP-0000m4-Iy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 15:48:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44564 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aFN-000898-QH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aFG-00088z-05 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aFF-0006T5-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aFF-0004b3-N1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:48:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52839 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52839-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52839.164078923517470 (code B ref 52839); Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52839) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2021 14:47:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aEV-0004Xi-3Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aET-0004XV-FJ for 52839@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:47:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=41334 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aEL-0006Mq-6J; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:47:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=boaMWB3/hIN94CUlhldPNudDRyoq5d8SqbUa6oG92dE=; b=XXqI6UPxcadv HkOYvpn1uuzqKo3yK0ePEgg9K0kdTYveO9bS5EzP72SQh4C8zLlnR0rT4ReIjX7xWSDlikPf3lcro Bv5iEgz+ZUfk9gqgYQD9qCioAJJlkC0mlBBT3BxQYQu/dz6K1mFHqJN+nYoM+vNVZXzp4LPYKrpxp YXROs0NCW38+MZC3UBDTL/mKWBf3Ti1PvEOg96jb+ACbn35H18HpFIF0wSBqEO6MoXgQLflApyo8t D+NFNEvOPux8a9IAc0Fg61NCBWm0w4iauYjzpQ3h1qqbiFrLbtMXndooEoiNINtXyUukPB/oWiKtB f2qYj5gEX3CqYAl7uxayfA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1430 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2aEL-0002T6-4w; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 09:47:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223333 Archived-At: > Cc: 52839@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 15:27:38 -0500 > From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > But the commit doesn't say why this change was made (other than saying > "like it was before"). Was there a specific problem introduced by the > filtering, or was it a change based on a judgment call about what the > default should be to balance the tradeoffs between bringing new > features and surprising the users? The latter. We then added the "M-X" binding for the new command that always omits inapplicable commands from the completion, so now users can have the cake and eat it, too.